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5 de Enero, 2007

30% of America Delusional, too

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grafik by Nezua

AND THE ONLY THING I CAN EVER SAY about these polls in the last few years is "damn. that many people still don't see through this ladrón?" Enjoy it, misterbush. For some reason I see you breaking records on the low end, and this may be a pleasant memory once you surge a few thousand more commas into Iraq.

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Colorado Bob dijo:

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Forgive if you've seen this guy, but he's got some nice chops .... Darkblack999 :

http://darkblack999.blogspot.com/


Nezua Limón Xolagrafik-Jonez | dijo:

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hola bob
yes, he can use the software well. but he has a bit of a bad rep in the POC blogworld due to his recent strong insistence that he is justified in using blackface. if you google for threads you will find it. i don't personally know him, and we all learn and improve, so i dont judge a person forever by their mistakes. i've made my share. but until his attitude changes on how hurtful using such imagery can be to others, i don't really find myself utterly impressed by much save his technical proficiency, which is "good."


Colorado Bob dijo:

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Un ... That's right , I had forgotten about that Liberman thing. One thing about the human baggage we all drag around, sometimes it flops open and out falls dirty laundry.


nezua limón xolagrafik-jonez dijo:

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well, i can forgive dirty socks that you didn't know were in your glovebox. but when you refuse to put them back, consistently demand that i sniff them and tell you that i smell roses, i have to say you're out of line. right?


George Smiley dijo:

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And it's a different 30% in evey poll, amigo.


darkblack dijo:

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'...due to his recent strong insistence that he is justified in using blackface'...

That's an interesting interpretation of my stance ...However, it is not entirely accurate.

Nice blog...Eye-catching, topical, thought-provoking...and thus, 'good' in its own way.

¡Cuídate!


nezua limón xolagrafik-jonez dijo:

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well, feel free to correct me, darkblack. i admit, i am no expert on your stance, and would love to give you the chance to inform me firsthand. i don't mean to try and define you. i am going by some of the common understanding out here. i certainly am open to hearing it from you.


darkblack dijo:

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Appreciations.

Each person has a vision, and a voice. Subjectively unique, objectively one of a multitude but all with an inherent worth.
My enemies are those who would belittle and negate such light out of greed, and a lust for power.

I have been accused of racism, 'white supremacy', and other such claptrap by individuals speculating wildly beyond the data for purposes unknown to me...But the worst accusation levied was that I was doing this to gain a cheap laugh.

I said it then and I will say it now...bullshit.

Ted Danson, under the auspices of Whoopi Goldberg, perhaps thought (and carelessly so) to skewer a stereotype through humor, attempting to deflate it for an exclusive group...But some stereotypes are impervious to humor.

Because they are drenched in blood.

I have walked with people of color from all over the world all my adult life, and have seen what the uncaring prejudiced society that holds me can do.

My aim was to cut to the core of a fundamentally dishonest man in a pictorial way. That was my intention.

I succeeded in my intention, but in the end the majority prevailed - in an foreign election, in a way as aboveboard as could be expected, given the high visibility of the race.

I apologise then and now for any offense or injury caused.

A moment to ponder something...

What drove the racists and the bigots from their cozy darkness into the light this time?
I say awareness...and dialog based on awareness...and shared intolerance fanned by exposure.

The choice? Provoke, or don't provoke?

And up jumped the devil

Would I use it again? I have made my answer within my own walls, which I will reprint here in the interests of clarity.

However, I will no longer use one in particular, as dimensions of its lingering hurtfulness that I was not previously aware of were revealed to me quite clearly by those affected.

The star I steer by is the wisdom of Ebog Jonson.

http://www.ebogjonson.com/archives/specials/should_i_use_blackface.htm

It would be crass en extremis for me to claim credit for any positive change that arose from my actions
...But I would be proud to stand with all the people to claim victory.

Respeto

Pax



Nezua Limón Xolagrafik-Jonez | dijo:

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Well, delivering locution like the proverbial Persecuted Superhero, I can see how you may have been misinterpreted in all your discussions on the topic!

I kid. Not really. But I do feel I understand. And you are right: certain tools, though they may be very good at making a mark, are not to picked up by all hands, regardless of their efficacy at sparking needed "dialogue based on awareness" or "cutting to the core of a fundamentally dishonest man in a pictorial way."

See, the thing is, the very righteousness you speak of, the mission, the vision—wherein one can almost (you are very careful when you speak, but I hear it straining behind the honest realization that others see things differently than you) justify their hurting others by making/inspiring a change that is for the "good," is exactly the attitude that remakes civilizations in the name of progress; it is the mantra of the Conqueror, found nestled under the seed husk of Imperialism—what I call the White Lens. And usually, the wearer (and I have been one, and I think the danger exists for everyone) can not see it, and can argue you for days that they are not wearing it. That is certainly not an argument I will get in with anyone, as my time is precious to me. But I need to stay vigilant so that such a righteous motivation does not overtake my very good heart. As you are clearly a clever chap, I think with some thought (or maybe none at all) you will get what I mean, even though I speak in shapes, and not sizes, of intention.

I very much appreciate your final standing upon the incident, as one that recognizes the hurt you have caused, and has chosen to act differently. Even if you don't deep down agree with the entirety of the worldview that judges you on this—the "foreign election" or "prevailing majority." In those decisions lie the way forward between peoples who can not agree on everything.

And thank you for speaking directly and honestly on this with me.


Arcturus dijo:

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heh! he or she who does not fully understand the nature of the materials being used may well (& deservedly) get bit in the ass - we so dearly cherish our precious private 'intentions' - but really who cares? taking the time to discern the intent behind certain decisions of great artists may well be useful or interesting or helpful in understanding what's going on w/ it, but aesthetic judgements won't be about its intent - & what's most important about the work, as in this case, may very well have absolutely nothing to do w/ its creator's intent


nezua limón xolagrafik-jonez dijo:

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that's such a tough lesson, arcturus. i had my ass beat with it in film school. i just got so furious. i didnt understand the role of a communicator within the purview of "artist." and as a communicator, you cannot only be aware of your own intention. the entire circuit must concern you, if you are ever to achieve mastery of your craft. and all artists who deal with media others see is a communicator.


Arcturus dijo:

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yea, well, despite my pissy preachy tone - le's jes' say I think we've all been there at one time or another


nezua limón xolagrafik-jonez dijo:

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it's really the only reason i try to be understanding. it's self interest dressed up as wisdom. ;) i know i'll be ignorant again sooner or later (sooner, i bet), and on that day, i don't want to suddenly look like a TOTAL ass. i can deal with being a smidge assy. but "total"? nah. :)


darkblack dijo:

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In the interests of clarity...'Foreign election' refers to that fact that I am not resident in the United States, and 'prevailing majority' to the fact that Joseph Lieberman was returned to the U.S. Senate by the will of the majority of Connecticut voters.

The 'white lens', indeed, lays like a cataracted iris across Norteamericano perceptions...Although I would say that, for myself I had no wish to be 'Bwana', but instead to fuck shit up. The 'unthinking' part is a shared resource of both states.

As for my ponderous locution...It's why I dream pictures.

:>)

Thank you for listening and responding.

Pax


nezua limón xolagrafik-jonez dijo:

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ah, okay. thanks for clearing up your terms for me.

yes, a good talk. hasta luego y paz,

Nezua Limón

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