Sabes que, mi amigo, they will never change. We need to esperarnos until the last generation or so "departs" and the racists fade into well deserved oblivion.

some concern when they smile as they ethnicly cleanse yu from the map.

however they are gonna have to really scrub scrub cause the demographic reality is that people of color outnumber the fundies.

the concern is the military is being infiltrated with right wing christies and the police tambien. so we have a potential gulag scenario. much as the swift roundup for the navidad.

it is gonna get ugly and brutal. but heh we been here before and us nortazos aint going anywhere.

i just didnt think this surge and escalation is so' how do you say' connect the dots.

thank deus we have alberto gonzalez on our side. tio taco indeed.

Anybody not devastatingly seduced by the Light side of the Force wielded by that Cindy Lou Who secret weapon with the biiiiig eyes, needs to just be taken out and dropped in a convenient cenote. There's no hope for anyone who can't see the world in a little kid's eyes and want it to be as grande and magnifico as it shines out at you.

I guess that's the trouble the world over though. Too many so called grown ups can do just that.

well said ese..

What I've been saying -- and perhaps being misunderstood for saying -- is that if white guys can't dance, it's probably not genetic.

ANYWAY, I'm glad "wordpress" lets me add tags. When I wrote on Pat (and -- alas -- so many others), I had to add one for "RIGHT WING IDIOTS".

Cheers... off to cumbia class :-)

That is the problem when the "colonizers" are intent in wiping out the histories of the land they conquered from the history book. We are constantly bombard with the notion that the American Revolution was all about when in fact, it was about securing new markets by conquering Native American land in order for the American Empire. Open any history book in our schools and you will see that our children are told that the United States began when Christopher Columbus "discovered" America, followed by how the Pilgrims landed on Plymouth Rock, and ending on how the 13 English Colonies won its independence from England through the American Revolution. We are taught that Jamestown is the oldest settlement in the US, when in reality St. Augustine in FL is the oldest.

We are told that the driving force of for our westward expansion was based on manifest destiny which explains why this country became the enormous, rich country we see today.

We are so schizophrenic when it come to the indigenous people. We celebrate Thanksgiving and pay homage to them for their kindness and then turn around and label them "merciless Indian Savages" in the Declaration of Independence and falsely accuse a whole population of assisting the Crown in the American Revolution.

In defining Colonialism, Frantz Fanon wrote: [C]olonialism is not simply content to impose its rule upon the present and the future of a dominated country. Colonialism is not satisfied merely with holding a people in its grip and emptying their native's brain of all forms of content. By a kind of perverted logic, it turns to the past of the oppressed people, and distorts, disfigures and destroys it.

As long as society is controlled through the dominant corporate media and their public relations partners Orwell will always be correct when he wrote "Those who control the past control the future; those who control the future, control the present; those who control the present control the past." And this is exactly what Pat is doing, trying to control the past will distortions.

I don't know where you are, who you are or why you believe what you do, nor do I care. It is your right if you are an American.

What I do care about is my country, and if you have lived here, were educated here, and have enjoyed the freedoms Americans have died to grant you, you should be respectful enough to understand the problem America is having now.

As an American I have a real problem with the lack of assimilation immigrants have shown, I'll grant you a lot of Immigrants bring with them skills and abilities that make America great, but those skills are being reciprocated with freedoms no other country enjoys.

I have NO Problem with LEGAL Immigration and I'd like to see some reform in the waiting line.

You and those like you are creating the difficulty YOUR people are facing in politics and national emotion.

All we are asking is that your compadres once here, BECOME AMERICANS.

Don't tell us, that have been here and payed taxes for generations, that we now need to learn YOUR language, If we want to we will.

Education in this country should be ENGLISH only except for electives.

In Mexico what is the National language? English is an elective if at all and not a necessity for any government or private employee's or employers.

The B.S. about it was our country first? Spoils of war my friend, however; it is a double edged sword, look at what your people have done to Mexico. If it was still Mexico's land Nevada,Canada, and Western Arizona would be the Border and the same thing would be happening.

The REAL problem is MEXICO, it's corrupt government and America's Laziness combined.

I won't come back, I'll let y'all go on thinking that is the Big bad American Racists against Immigration persecuting the Hispanics.

I am not a supporter of P.B either, I think he is a moron and he doesn't speak me.

BTW, I do commend you on your site building this is one well done web page.

I don't know where you are, who you are or why you believe what you do, nor do I care. It is your right if you are an American.

What I do care about is the truth, and if you have lived here, were educated here, and have enjoyed the soft life that Americans have lied and killed for to grant you, you should be aware of some real history instead of the tripe you swallow that is dished out by corporate-controlled interests who would sooner bury you than truly educate the pawns.

As a Human I have a real problem with the lack of awareness you show. I'll grant you a lot of people who talk like you are good people, and mean well, but your hypocritical, consumerist, selfish, ignorant, violent energies are destroying the world due to the propaganda you all are swallowing.

You and those like you are creating the difficulty the entire nation is now facing regarding politics, war, terror, and wordwide loathing.

All I am asking is that you and fellow "Patriots" like yourself get educated on how we really got here, and who has been wronged in order for you to be so comfy and self-confident in your exceptionalist attitude.

Don't tell me that a bunch of liberty-loving explorers built this land and you have the right to demand the indigenous continue to be yoked under your immoral laws and various subtle forms of colonization. My people have been here for thousands of years, your illegal borders and aggressive exploitation is hurting us still, and if we want to travel the lands we have for ages, we WILL.

Even the Mexican-American war's resolution provided for Spanish Language in the states, and now you pretend that is not part of signed treaty. Doesn't matter, the war was illegal and immoral, just like Iraq, just like so many of the actions the US military/CIA undertakes.

The B.S. about it now it's no longer the Indians' land? You wish. But saying so don't make it so. Tough shit, my friend. There are deeper and more sacred laws than bloody parchments scrawled by the hand of Imperialism and Greed.

The REAL problem is IGNORANT fools LIKE YOU.

You will come back. In fact I bet you are reading this right now.

BTW, I don't care if you like my web design skills or not.

There is a reason why we call this land of ours (in our little corner of the Caribbean) Boriquen. Why many places in the Americas (North & South) bear the native names (even in the whites of parts). You can't scrub the truth away my friends, you just can't do it.

"Robert" forgets, or probobly never learned that what was done to the peoples of Mexico is once again being done in Iraq/Afghanistan etc... You've got something we want so we declare you non-christians and since you're not christians we're taking what we want in the name of KEErist!!!

OZ, isn't it amazing how effectively the Hand of Denial and Self-Interest can cordon off memory and history and honest analysis?

XP, thanks for droppin' some True History here, bro. As always, rockin' the comment forms.

richard, i would tend to agree, just thinkin' off the top of my head. i've known some crazy breakdancers who were puro güero, back in the days i got down with it in the 80s. but much of the hipshakin, ass-movin, shoulder-boppin, neck-poppin movements that are needed to really get your groove on conflict with the socialization of so many Whites. which is, to my mind, puritan based. i could be wrong. luckily, there are many parts of myself that followed a path that wasn't even shown to me...as if on my own, or in my bones, i was following a path that was somehow laid down even underneath or on top of any conditioning. i can dance like ten mofos!

Some people don't even bother to keep the sheet in the closet anymore.

mikefromtexas: word. and i wouldn't wish that ugly book on anyone. yet, it sells fine.

And we wonder why history keeps repeating itself.

OZ, that's the part that really saddens me. we have such potential as the creatures that humans can be, capable of such good, bearing such gifts, composed of the abilities we all are. but if we don't LEARN from our mistakes we are stuck making the same ones over and over and over! tristemente, that's cool with the powers that be 'cause it's like some perverse groundhog day for them. they can keep stealing the same lottery ticket every day and cashing it in. filling they coffers. while those around them watch their world darken and don't know why it's happening.

You're hitting on all cylinders. I was slacking in my last post about history repeating; the implication being that intellectual laziness Causes the repetition(like you noted about cashing the same lottery ticket over and over).

I found your site when you helped that Frenchman "Jesus General) a couple weeks back.

graz, OZ. it's good to have your contribution here. propz to tha frenchman!

So we now down to justifying America's colonial conquest with a weak "Spoils of war" argument. How pathetic and sad, well no shit Sherlock, tell me something I didn't know about the rule of war. It is not hard to understand the genocidal mantra that runs through your head - "To the victor go the spoils."

Since we are the victor, we get to dictate the use of our language such as using softening words for genocidal atrocities, so genocide and massacres becomes casualties and collateral damage, right. At least that is what we are calling it now. All we have to do is turn on the news to hear about the casualties in Iraq.

So as you glorify people like Washington and all other leaders who followed him in pursuing the genocidal assault against our native people, why not add Adolph Hitler to that list as Washington and Jefferson were the inspirations and models for Hitler as he was designing his own plan to exterminate the Jews, Gypsies, Slavs and other Untermenschen of his day. I guess the holocaust was just one of those "spoils of war" huh?

I know it is hard to believe because the holocaust could never happen in America, our leaders would never believe in their own, God-given superiority and the inferiority of all else. Right?. Take for example Adolf Hitler's address before the Reichstag on January 30, 1939:
"If the international Jewish financiers within and without Europe succeed in plunging the nations once more into a world war, then the result will not be the Bolshevization of the world and thereby the victory of the Jewry, but the obliteration of the Jewish race in Europe."

Our country's Founding Father George Washington said in 1783:"the Indians, after all, were little different than wolves, both being beasts of prey, tho' they differ in shape who deserved nothing from the whites but total ruin."

Or was it Jefferson that inspired Hitler. Jefferson wrote that: the government was obliged now to pursue them to extermination, or to drive them to new seats beyond our reach.

But Injuns don't count, right? Their fate aren't part of the "spoils of war" because millions committed mass suicide in order to hand over "our spoils" to us. How would you explain African Americans? Are owning slaves a matter of the spoils of war? Must be since Thomas Jefferson believed that - The improvement of the blacks in body and mind, in the first instance of their mixture with the whites, has been observed by every one, and proves that their inferiority is not the effect merely of their condition of life.

It is unwise to believe crimes against humanity are perpetrated only by our enemies we succeed to devastate with our superior war machine.

AW SHNAP don't look now, "Robet," but looks like XP just kicked the shit out of your sad excuse for logic. Perhaps his Xicano mind is just naturally sharper? Or maybe it's all the fake history you've been swallowing that has dulled your ability to reason?

Guess we'll never know.

todos,

The thing that helps Sr Horsedooty dance is BEER.

yo soy Horsedooty!

Thanks, but it was a good friend and a great role model who once told me that "language is a power you can use in confrontation." ;)

And ever since then, I have taken it to heart. People like Robert think just by saying "well that is the nature of war" will justify everything. It is nothing but a cop out.

well, 'mano, i'm sure your friend would be very happy to hear ya say that. :) and you were dead on. what a lame justification, "the spoils of war." that's not reasoning. that's schoolyard taunting. and one thing i've learned is that you never taunt someone if you can't back it up. but i guess Robot didn't learn that yet.

YES! YES! YES! I love it when something I read makes me jump up and down with excitement over it's sheer "rightness". You are right on the money here especially when you tell those reading who are white to let those feelings sink in deep and live with them. They have no clue. As we both know, that lack of awareness of the privileges that the majority has is dangerous and leads to comments from brainwashed boneheads like Robet (sic) as well as the completely self-serving anti-immigrant movement.

Thank you for speaking truth. We need to hear that more often.

Thanks, postmodern sexgeek. I appreciate that.