Como diria mi Pai, "Uno simpre jala para su lao!"

I mean 3,000 resonates with Americans, because its 3,000 Americans, those others are not-Americans, so its harder to "care".

Make of this what you will.

That is human nature, it's true. Or at least the initial impulse in today's world.

I guess what I make of it is that we have replaced humanity with nationality. Which means that the moral justification for murder simply becomes tied to which side of the velvet rope one happens to be standing on....

If we were at war with a white country, I bet they would be counting the dead civilians vigilantly.

The Vietnamese call the Vietnam War, The "American War." It is all about perspecitive--or well, the perspective with power that decides which dead is worth the fight for so-called freedom. Iraqi children were somehow expendable in the eyes of our politicans but, I bet they will be addressing the nation soon about these soldiers. Not because they care but because the public will demand answers. Who demands answers about the Iraqi deaths?

I think you are right that nationalism mascarades as humanism. unfortunately.

I tried to write a little about this today but I didn't know where to begin because it is not only nationalism, it is a form of eurocentrism. this year in oakland, CA, there have been more than 100 homicides. if those were white people, you would have heard about this in Oregon's mainstream newspapers, because they are mostly young African American men, it gets little media coverage.

I know...I was looking through the local paper yesterday at the "nation" articles on page 2 they feature, the ones they cull from around the country and i'm like "why the hell did they pick these stories out of ALL the news in the acountry?"

The articles were four in number. Three were about black or black/latino violence. One was about an oil pipeline being fixed.

I played the numbers game and I worked out if you allow one second for every Iraqi death it would take almost seven days to remember them all. But less than an hour for the invasion forces.

I think it is an omen, really. The 3,000th death occurred on Jan 1 of this new year. Not really a good way to start off any new year.

Un ... I always found it interesting that we went to free the Iraqi's from the dictator, and never bothered to count their dead.

Un.... OT

Here's a fellow who is doing some great work, although he doesn't post too often, his stuff is well written, and he's got a page to go with it .

Professor Smart Ass

yeah, colorado bob, you know. we don't want to bother our beautiful minds with stuffs like deadirakkis!

thanks for the tip.

—nez

Thanks for the nod, Bob.

I posted the unapologetic mexican's Saddam hanging photo on democraticunderground.com:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=3023975&mesg_id=3023975