« Needed: Writer for Happy Hellbound Spammers | Main | Gleam on the National Product »
7 de Febrero, 2007
Watada Case A Mistrial
Categorized under Ley | Tags: Watada
WATADA CASE ruled a mistrial.
FORT LEWIS, United States - The court martial of a US army officer who refused to fight in Iraq was ruled a mistrial here after a dispute over a pre-trial agreement.
Military judge Lieutenant Colonel John Head halted the case involving First Lieutenant Ehren Watada following possible inconsistencies concerning a "stipulation of fact" agreed before the hearing.
A date for a new court martial has been set for March 19.
—Raw Story
That was quick. From what I read (not at length) is that the prosecution basically wants Lt. Watada extremely limited in arguing/stating what his feelings and thoughts were on the legality of the war. Prosecution made a deal with Defense (regarding what Lt Watada's "motives" were for refusing to deploy), and then the Defense wanted a statement read aloud before the trial, The judge is saying now that this statement read aloud would violate the agreement? So it's a mistrial? I don't know. I'm not a lawyer and it sure seems a strange reason to rule a mistrial.
Anyway. We keep watching on as the government/military tries to sidestep the ONE thing that this entire country and the world is STILL waiting to address after these years: The Horrific and Obvious Wrong That Is the United States Invasion and Occupation of Iraq.

FORT LEWIS, United States - The court martial of a US army officer who refused to fight in Iraq was ruled a mistrial here after a dispute over a pre-trial agreement.


Comentarios (11)
Ralfast dijo:
Sorry, typing from a strange computer here. In short, the UCMJ is a strange legal contruct designed not to express justice but to enforce discipline. Thus it does not surprise me that this was declared a mistrial, since military discipline includes what you say, when you say it and even if you get to say anything at all.
Palabras por Ralfast spat forth on el 7 de Febrero, 2007 at 03:48 PM
turtlebella dijo:
hmmm, since 100% of my legal knowledge comes from Law and Order, I dunno either. And anyway, as Ralfast said, I guess the military is all different...
Palabras por turtlebella spat forth on el 7 de Febrero, 2007 at 04:43 PM
Professor Zero dijo:
Very interesting.
Ralfast is right but also, without being a lawyer, I have some experience going to civil and criminal trials and hearings, because of my prison activism past, and because of actually having been a witness.
Law and Order does murder trials, and at those, yes, they let all of this evidence in about state of mind, degree of insanity, and so on, *if* there is a good well funded lawyer who has a good relationship with the judge and so on.
But for things like showing that you had good reason, for a long time, to not believe in the Iraq war, or anything else, it is hard to get a word in edgewise. Everything is done to define the issue as narrowly as possible. A lot of evidence is suppressed, and a lot of context is ignored.
This so far as I can tell is because the law is not justice, it is a set of rules and procedures.
(This btw is why the LSAT is as it is, very very 'objective' and fact-oriented.)
Palabras por Professor Zero spat forth on el 7 de Febrero, 2007 at 07:03 PM
Sylvia dijo:
I think Zero's right; they're trying to keep the issue of the war's legality as far from the proceedings as possible and concentrate on Watada's actual actions. They don't want to dwell on the reasons for them because strangely enough, the reasons aren't the reason for the court martial.
It looks like a procedural tangle.
Palabras por Sylvia spat forth on el 7 de Febrero, 2007 at 07:13 PM
OZinWisconsin dijo:
In the Army we used to say "Military justice is to justice as military music is to music". That explained a lot to this young soldier at the time.
Palabras por OZinWisconsin spat forth on el 7 de Febrero, 2007 at 08:16 PM
luisa dijo:
"Military justice is to justice as military music is to music"
i like that one, OZinWisconsin.
calling the law out is not something defendents are really allowed to do in the courtroom. they can 'interpret' the law and try to find loopholes that will influence theirs and future cases. maybe that is why the mistrial was granted. he wanted to bring in the reasoning for the law not the fact that he broke it i.e. the illegality of war vs. refusing to fight due to an injury or religious objection.
it is like being caught with marijuana--you cannot argue that the law is stupid and used to put the poor and people of color in jail--you can only argue that you did not do it or that you had a legal reason for possession (like medical reasons here in CA). if you choose to argue that the law is unjust to begin with, it is a whole different ball game and the powers that be have a much larger stake in the outcome.
Palabras por luisa spat forth on el 7 de Febrero, 2007 at 10:12 PM
Rafael dijo:
As I said above (Ralfast/Rafael) the military justice system is primarily concerned with keeping discipline within its ranks. In no other system would the accuser also have the ability to have so much control over the proceedings (the convening authority, your CO). Thats one of the reason why military tribunals are not proper places for justice, merely express lanes to the gallows.
Palabras por Rafael spat forth on el 7 de Febrero, 2007 at 11:34 PM
Ill Do Chay dijo:
Rafael is right on. Military persons have significantly reduced rights, even compared to our reduced rights under shrubco. A#1, they don't have free speech rights. While I agree with Watada and I wish he prevails, the system is not going to help him.
The worst thing IMO is that the military is essentially forcing the Nuremberg Defense - "I was just following orders". Well they hanged NAZIs for their illegal actions, even though they were 'only' following orders, and said they had a DUTY to DISOBEY ILLEGAL ORDERS. So Watada does the right thing and he gets screwed.
Palabras por Ill Do Chay spat forth on el 8 de Febrero, 2007 at 03:45 AM
luisa dijo:
(okay, now that i have asked a lawyer) the mistrial isn't necessarily a bad thing. the judge is only throwing out evidence the prosecution would use in the case against Watada. (i think) now they have to build their case again. in the contract, Watada was told that he was signing a statement that basically stated that he thought the war was illegal but the military twisted it around to mean that Watada was admitting guilt. The judge would not take it as evidence for the prosecution.
Palabras por luisa spat forth on el 8 de Febrero, 2007 at 08:56 AM
L.G. Fucktard dijo:
Does anyone know if Lt. Watada's two resignation letters and his request to be sent to Afghanistan rather than Iraq have been posted on the internets tubes?
Palabras por L.G. Fucktard spat forth on el 8 de Febrero, 2007 at 09:07 AM
Rafael dijo:
The Pentagon may have also realized that this trial may have turned into a P.R. nightmare, this one along side the Libby trial is doing what Congress and the Press would not do, expose the inside of the bowl of wriggling earthworms that was and is the Iraq War.
Palabras por Rafael spat forth on el 8 de Febrero, 2007 at 10:30 AM