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11 de Mayo, 2007

Alien Expedition 0257u.09

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PERHAPS YOU HUNGER for a bit more intelligent commentary on my recent post titled The True Front of Progressivism than that found on certain comment threads. I can't say I blame you. The post generated a bit of conversation, and much of la energía has been fantastic, and sometimes has even begun or joined with other very inspiring stories and thoughts.

I'm going to round these ones up because I would like to make a record of them, attached to the original post which can be found here, here, and here.

Firstly, R. Mildred at Cuntensquirten maps out (smacks down?) a beautiful analysis of the Nezua-Orcinus adventure in her post ...And For My Next Trick I Shall Poke A Killer Whale

When non-white people talk about white people, there is that nasty tendency to assume that they're talking specifically about you, becuase there's always that fear that you are just that bit more racist than you realise, that bit less self-aware than you thought you were, becuase you walk around day after and see all the unreconstructed white racists who are convinced, absolutely fucking convinced for no discernible reason anyone can make out, that they're not racists, that they're Nice Guys and good and pure and the model of Die Colorblind Ubermenschen.

But they're not, and their unslain buddhas hangs over you and you wonder... are they talking about me?

This post oughtta be bound in at least a paperback format and included with my post over at JG's and pretty much anywhere it goes, I think.

Next is Kev over at Slant Truth, who not only wins my "funniest line of the week" award with (and hidden somewhere inside) his post Stories Are Our Truths, but who also ties together a couple posts (brings in BA's post) with a real uplifting and positive philosophy about Our Stories:

One thing that always strikes me is the commenter that demands “data” whenever PoC speak their truths. I’m all to used to the demand that an assertion can only be true if you have the necessary data to support it. Now this is fine when your dealing with academics, but the demand spills over into personal truths as well.

...but I'm not giving away the funny part here! Read the whole thing.

XicanoPwr once again blows the lid offa the rice n beans with his post No Room for “Pet Issues” in the Democratic Big Tent:

Lets not kid ourselves, the elite bloggers are wanting to build a Grover Norquist-type party, the Big Tent idea is just a facade. They talk a big game about inclusiveness within the Democratic Big Tent. But their tent is one that is about selling out women, gays and minorities just to continue the status quo. A status quo split into oppressor and the oppressed. A world of have’s and have-not’s.

Fourthly, nuestra amigo over at The Mex Files, Richard tells a story that brings the ideas down to earth, and introduces the blog and (broken-up by la migra) family life of Laura Fernandez:

Laura Fernandez’ One Step Closer probably won’t get picked up by the “A-list bloggers” in the U.S. who think any issue outside their purview is a “pet issuenot worthy of their notice. Since it isn’t a hot topic with their favored Democratic Party candidates, they just don’t care.

Well, I hope they don’t start asked the American who live abroad for campaign donations, or to donate to their “pet issues.” Laura, and the other Laura, and Gulf War Marine veteran José Luis Negrete are not looking at moving out of the United States for their pets. They are United States Citizens married (or became engaged to) people who overstayed their visa, or didn’t acquire a green card in time, or had other violations: ...

Taking names and showing no mercy is a warrior of el corazón known The SmackDog Chronicles, who tells it like it is in Nez Kicks, Ren Rocks, BfP Flames, BA Whacks….and J-Val Merely Sucks:

This, friends, neighbors, and Clones, is the very reason I am a radical, not a liberal.

An Independent Leftist, not just a liberal Democrat.

A (pro-)sex radical, not just a libertarian.

A democratic socialist, not just a social democrat.

A Black man, not only an African American.

Because I know more than anything else that it’s not just right-wingers and Klan bigots who use and abuse Black folk and Brown folk and female folk and sexual outcasts.

They are just the most boisterous and open about their hatred.

At Vox Aemeliae, solidarity from a woman called, simply, Emily. The post I quote from is called Blogosphere Troubles:

But BA is right. Whenever bloggers of color call out the big-name white bloggers, whether they be feminists or progressives or whatever, the big-namers just counter with some lame shit. I was really insulted when they slyly insinuated that stuff like this is link-mongering. I'm assuming that the big bloggers think that the poc bloggers just want some $$new readers$$ to test those liberal t-shirt ads out on, but look: go to BFP's place, or The Unapologetic Mexican, do you see one freaking ad? No, there is a little donation button, but if Nez and BFP chose to put ads on their sites, they get enough readers that they could make money. ...

But no, they say what they say because their messages need to be out there. So, when someone like Nez asks for solidarity from fellow supposedly progressive bloggers, there's no hidden message there, he wants solidarity.

update:

From Vox ex Machina, a post called Excuses:

Ah, and now the spin comes in. The write-off of anyone who brings up race as “too PC.” Funny how this tactic is used by the neo-cons to discredit progressive and traditional conservatives and the liberals, and now “liberalrob” turns right around and uses it to discredit others because they bring up an uncomrfortable truth about white progressives. ...

And white privilege remains firmly intact. And liberalrob probably thinks he’s fighting the man. He doesn’t realize that, with the mindset shown in this comment, he is the man. He’s the white men who fought off British rule to declare that black slaves were 3/5ths of a person, and whose descendents later denied the right to self-rule for vast areas of Mexico, Native Americans, the Philippines, Iraq, Afghanistan. He’s the white men who fought to destroy the Confederacy, then gave them back the plantations worked by slaves and sharecroppers. He’s the white man who argued for the freedom of African slaves while waging a genocidal war on Native Americans. He’s the white man who supported the Philippine-American war and its genocide to “protect” Filipinos, and who ignored the Chinese Exclusion Act to fight for Irish immigrant rights and the lynching of people of color to fight for Sacca and Vanzetti, the white people who fight to teach the Holocaust in schools but not the Porrajmos or the Native American genocide in the U.S.

If you fight for the rights of some at the expense of the rights of others, you’re part of the problem. And now you want us to wait, you’ll include us later, but you need our support right now?

Fuck that.

Great blogs anyway, and I'm happy to see the conversations rolling on. Now, I've got an "Imperative" meme to finish so I best be off. ¡Nos vemos!

—Nezua


updated on sat morning, may 12 with #5 and #6 added

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Comentarios (9)


Sylvia dijo:

GRVTR

Your not-quite-bright WOC blogger read the quote from Kevin at Slant Truth and thought, "Hahahahaha-- hey, wait, that's not funny," until she proceeded to read the next line. This is a great round-up.


nezua limón xolagrafik-jonez dijo:

GRVTR

that is hilarious.

thanks.


Cero dijo:

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On progressivism, here is a snippet of Freire (in Pedagogy of the Oppressed, 46-47):

[The fear of the freedom of the oppressed may produce falsely generous Masters who "truly desire to transform the unjust order, but because of their background, they believe that they must be the executors of the transformation." Discovering onself to be an oppressor may "cause considerable anguish, but does not necessarily lead to solidarity with the oppressed. ... The convert who approaches the people but feels alarm at each step they take, each doubt they express, and each suggestion they offer, attempts to impose his 'status,' remains nostalgic towards his origins."

Hat tip to Linda Kintz, "On Performing Deconstruction" (Cultural Critique 16, 1990, 87-107) in whose also interesting piece these quotations are embedded (p. 104).


Kevin dijo:

GRVTR

Everyone needs to read Paulo Freire--even if you're not in education. I just lent my copy of Pegadogy of the Oppressed to an 18 year old Education student. Getting thinking about this stuff early before it's too late I say.

Thanks for bringing him up, Cero. Always makes my day to see people are familiar with his work.

And thanks for the props, Nez. Funny thing about that line is that as I was writing it, I was in deadly serious/bordering on angry mode. It wasn't until you pointed it out that I realized that it's a damn funny line/image.


nezua limón xolagrafik-jonez dijo:

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thanks cero...i'ma hafta look into his junk.

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that's funny, Kevin. i know what ya mean, how that works. it's hard to tell about humor. humor is sort of an off-kilter guest anyway. part of its nature. comes and goes when it wants. with stuff droppin out of its pockets.


XP dijo:

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Cero - that is a nice quote from Freire. I also like his explanation as to why the oppressed becomes a sub-oppressor. I have been wanting to get his other books, but they are really hard to find.

Kevin your are so spot on that everybody should read Paulo Freire. The first time I read was in grad school. I think people make a mistake that he is all about education, theories can be applied to community organizing.


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