When they kick out all the anchor babies out, will she be included? I mean, who is to say that her parents didn't have her so they could stay in 'Merica? I know that sounds harsh and mean, but isn't that what she is accusing Latinos of doing?

awww, ya'll just don't see how cute michelle is. i mean for real, she's kinda hot. and she's a better writer than anne coulter or lou dobbs. not quite on par with pat buchanan tho--he's very intellectual in his hate. I don't know tho--maybe that's what makes michelle so super hot--she can throw down.

i wonder how it would churn michelle's cute little stomach to know an achor baby is hot for her.

bfp you're right. she is hot. now if she could only get in touch with her heart..shed be beautiful.

and HEY!!!! welcome back, amiga!! we need you out here. i hope you're rested.

now if she'd only get in touch with her heart...sigh--you're just full of expectations and qualifications aren'tcha??? :p

jeje...ah well. i guess i'm asking too much, eh?

I think she's a Gorgon. You're only as pretty as the look on your face.

Yeah, MM is so full of self-hate it just makes me sad. But that is another brilliant graphic, Nezua.

i always appreciate the grafix propz, jeffaclitus.

Hee! You're going to be Jeffaclitus 'til the end of your days, Jeffaclitus.

Malkin, well, it's hard for me to do much there besides wonder how she sleeps at night. Through her words she's incited others to kill. So have many others, of course, and I know human beings are geniuses at rationalization, but I keep thinking at some point her rationalizations for what she does have to run out.

They won't run out, though, because she's surrounded by so many other people who reinforce those rationalizations, eagerly supply new ones to her, and just give her ego strokes and say go, go, go. We couldn't have the Malkin (love that, btw) if there weren't very real rewards in this country for being the Malkin.

So is this Michelle Malkin someone on television or something? Sorry, I'm just not much of a watcher.

see link above under "contradiction", chuckie k. she is a blogger (who aslo occasionally appears on TV as "contributor" you know, talking head or "pundit.")

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sadly, ilyka, you're right.

pobrecita sellout, but sometimes i wonder, can you blame her, its so much easier to put others down while climbing over them. I mean, if she were dignified and honoring her ancestry and its historical struggle, she would'nt be much more than a D-lister blogger. Mainstream society would only see her as a stereotype. Even the supposed progressive liberal blogs have lost touch with it human rights roots. For example, at C&L the commenter are attacking the dog-sh***t out of Laura Flanders for pointing out to Grandmaster Dobbs that the term illegal and alien are part a dehumanizing framework. I then recognize that human decency is poorly rewarded (sometimes scutinized) and thus scarce in the media.

great comment. so dead on.

Ha! I actually really like "jeffaclitus." It's kind of cute, and also kind of sounds like a dinosaur (which I like, though I have no idea why). I seriously think I might start using it everywhere.

"Malkin, well, it's hard for me to do much there besides wonder how she sleeps at night."

Yep.

LOL..her maiden name is Maglalang (Filipino) and both her parents are immigrants themselves. I've seen this quite often, minorities who feel exempt because they received a pretigious education, live in and socialize in predominatly caucasian environment and make enough bank to buy thier way out of their "browness".

[TWO SENTENCES DELETED BY NEZ UPON REQUEST] ...She's enjoying her popularity but the racists are using her for much more. When the immigration issue is all done, what society will she return to, the racists will not have much use for her then.

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[ADDED BY NEZ, BY REQUEST OF LAVERDAD]:

Do me a favor, please DELETE the negative thing I said about Michelle. I'm very embarrased. I should have not posted such ugly things,,,it's not like me...that day I reached my threshold of anger. Looking back it makes me sound as bad as the racists we fight every day. If you want you can replace that ugly message with this. My apology to everyone for saying such an ignorant thing. I am never too proud to admit when I am wrong and that was wrong.

Thank you Nez.

she is an exploiter and a vampire a sellout a tool a fool.

but i think the Me So Horny girl was vietnamese...

Well "me so horny" and "love you long time" are just general Asian-woman-bashing expressions, actually. They're both usually seen as racist by the Asian community.

yeah, that didn't feel right. lo siento.

yeah...la verdad, mi amiga, we can put her down plenty without going there. lots of valid stuff to use.

LaVerdad has asked that I redact her comment. Which I have. And I have respect for her ability to be humble and admit wrong.

La Verdad, I appreciate your retraction and apology. Maybe you can imagine just how often Asian women hear those words from drunk white men in bars and such, waving dollar bills and high-fiving each other. Those words are used to taunt Asian men as well, to emasculate and demean. Not really funny.

Of course I encourage you and everyone to go after Malkin with everything you've got, she deserves it and more; but drawing on racism/misogyny hurts many, many people who don't. So thank you for recognizing the mistake.

And thanks for straightening that out, Nez.

of course.

now, this is not about LaVerdad anymore (who incidentally is deeply involved in anti-racist, pro-immigrant activism), but just something i think on in general: i marvel at the common reflex, even in good people, that when anger rises at a person and we want to smack them with something, the easiest handle to grab is the one that has bashed them (from behind for ages) and is lying on the ground still wet with blood. this tells us valuable things not only about the dynamics of racism/racist thought, but anger, too.

and this is also what makes any posts i do on The Malkin problematic. this is not the first time a thread has gone the way where the Malkin ends up looking...good, or where the focus gets blurred on who is harming whom. and that is exactly why there is such a platform for her, such a niche waiting for people like her on the radical Right.

it's the dynamic that Coulter accused "the Left" of using: putting spokespeople out there who would be able to deal out hate, and yet who would garner sympathy by the nature of their sex/ethnicity and—with the help of critics who were sure to fall into the trap i mention—ultimately confuse the debate as well as obscure these despicable pundits' own hypocrisies and agendas. it's actually the very dynamic that makes Coulter possible, as well.

kai, I'm very sorry, no words can express or be enough. I made an assanine ignorant comment based on anger. I typed without thinking or considering the hurt it may have cause. Forgive me, that's all I can ask.

Should we also, perhaps, retract the "vendida" snipe? After BFP made a reference to it in her basta ya entry, I asked her what it meant, and...I don't think that's appropriate with its racist and misogynist overtones, either.

well, as long as we're calling each other out--the comment vendida has always rankled my nerves, even when I'm not the one being called it--it's a sexualized slur used specifically to reference brown women's sexual relationship with white men, not exactly lacking of misogynistic overtones....

i use vendido as sell-out, and specifically on these types of issues. vender is "to sell," and "vendido" is traitor, sellout to your people. i use it for gonzo, and i think LaVerdad used it in the same way. i actually didn't know of the situation you refer, but i can see how it would be used in such a way. i wouldn't approve of someone using it in that way here.

personally, i will use "vendido," and i dont mind the use of "vendida" here in this context. thats my take on it...the way its being wielded.

but nez
where does it stem from? what are the historical references? sure, men are called vendidos now--but who is selling out whom--what did the "sell out" refer too? how do we know what it's talking about?

it's all talking about the brown woman opening her legs for the white man--la malinchista, and it may have been "reclaimed' to talk about men (sort of) it's got very specific connotations for women--does vendido mean (to put it very crassly) sucking the *ick of the white man? is it used to reference a sexual selling out for men?

hmmm. well, as i understood it, bfp, it's based on the verb 'vender' as i said. i dont know how to get "licking dicks" and so on from it.

no, i dont think it is used to reference a sexual selling out for men. i dont use it that way, at least, when i call Gonzo "vendido."

but i guess i wasn't reading it as referring to malkin's marrying her husband. now that i think of it. i thought LaVerdad meant it as brown hating on brown....but maybe not.

however, she did ask me to strike her entire comment (well you can read what she wrote me, i included it), i was the one who chose to selectively delete a part.

so on the chance that LaVerdad meant it in reference to Malkin marrying a white man, and given all the resonances here, i will strike it.

but i will continue to use "vendido" in the manner i have. on whether or not i use "vendida" in the way i am comfortable with, or have been in the past, i will continue to think on.

LaVerdad, no worries, I already accepted your first retraction. Actually I wasn't even really upset, I know Nez's place well and if you're his amiga you're likely mine, so my issue was more with straightening out those words for the record, ya know?

Nezua, yeah you're right, unfortunately anger can be debilitating to judgment, even righteous anger. Like any powerful energy, it can be harnessed into something productive or it can get away from us and become destructive. As for the ease with which we reach for the nearest racist/other-ist bludgeon, true, it's just kinda convenient I guess, I mean it's right there and you don't have to come up with anything original. Heh, maybe I should be the one going after Malkin, since I doubt many folks would get into anti-Asian slurs at my place. But then, I don't really write about right-wingers. Hmm. I don't know what the solution is; I guess to insistently keep bringing the discussion back to what's wrong with what folks like Malkin are doing, not who they are...?

wait, i've checked. -----[edited] used it. and not in reference to her marrying a white man.

yes, of course. i mean...that's what i'm trying to do in posts like this. perhaps not perfectly. thats why i even dont mind the term "vendida," because it does talk about what malkin is doing. she is harming her people by selling out. thats why i, in fact, like the word for her. she is one.

but bfp, i guess it has too much history? just history i wasnt really aware of.

well, i guess we are all each other's people. right? she is turning her back on those like her is what i mean, those who might have to struggle against common challenge.

bfp i'm going to walk around for a bit, just let me think on this.

i'll post a thing by cherrie moraga later on talking about it nez, i think she was the first chicana to really take on the word--but as i understand it, it all refers back to brown native women spreading their legs for white conquistadores--hence, the sell out--la malinchista. it may not mean that for men, but it *definnitly* means that for women. I always hear in my mostly english speaking mind "sell out cunt" when people call me that.

octavio paz (who is a class a dick) also referenced the term quite a bit, and was pretty instrumental in defining brown women (specifically) as sexual sell outs.

ah...well. i look forward to reading it, bfp. yes...i know about "la malinche" so what you say makes sense.

please, educate me, hermana.

Nez, for the record I wrote my comment before I saw any of the "vendid@" discussion, responding strictly to what you wrote about how sometimes Malkin ends up looking almost...good...which seems kinda impossible, and how that's part of a tactic which Coulter calls "the left's doctrine of infallibility" (ugh, what a poorly phrased lie). Personally I think you should have a green light to go after Malkin and any of these hate-mongering asshats; I'm not implying anything else. Quite separately, I'm sure you'll sort out your position on the "vendid@" issue to your and everyone's satisfaction. That's the nice thing about "our" side of the blogosphere...actual dialogue! imagine that! :-)

imagine ALL the people, Kai. blogging for today...ooohoo-oooooo

...you may say I'm a blogger...but I'm not the only one...

...maybe some day-ee-ee-ay you'll log in...

From what I understood and from what BFP explained, "vendida" when referring to a woman has the added bonus of not only being a sell-out, but also a whore. So it's loaded because of the sexual connotation she added to it. Gonzales would be a sell-out (vendido); Malkin would be a sell-out whore (vendida).

I admit, when I first saw the word in BFP's entry, I assumed it was just a basic word for "sell-out" but I decided to ask her after she mentioned it in the entry she wrote about leaving and...yeah. It runs deeper than that when used for a woman. :(

well. i didn't know what it was tapping into, but it makes sense. i will strike it, of course. i do look forward to bfp's post nonetheless, as i would always rather know more than i do...especially about any words that i use.

gracias.

and yeah, kai, i didn't mean to draw you in. i knew that your comment was not referencing the other thing. just still thinking it over as i wrote.

this is a kind offer, bfp. i think when i have some time, though, i'll look into it, myself.

thanks for dropping the name, hermana, and the energy you put out to make your feelings and experience clear here, and elsewhere.

nez, i'm glad you've given this issue thought! :)