But what about 2012?-- The year that the Aztec calender predicts a change of conciousness. Arn't the children born after 1990 supposed to be the ones who change the world? :)

I sort of hope that Aztec theory proves true because my nephew just had his 1st birthday.

I love Marcos. Or maybe not Marcos. Maybe I love the elderly indigenous women he credits for his words.

Did you check this post out over at BFP's? http://brownfemipower.com/?p=1408

yeah...maybe it was at bfps..for some reason its another site in my memory. but i have seen it recently. (maybe my newsfeed just makes everything look the same in my memory!) it's a great bit of info.

its like quoted in the article i linked. he talks about that, the "other" campaign. lots of sorts joining up and uniting. i love that idea.

happy b'day to ya nephew! and i think we are all changing the world. even here in 2007, you know?

Marcos reminds me of Jerry Rubin (but maybe I'm showing my age). He's the fun face of Revolution, but a couple of things bother me. I don't see any indication that he's no longer a "Marxist-Leninist", if not a Stalinist. BTW, the Stalinists used to run a tent-sale out across from the Palacio Nacional on the Mexico City Zocalo... I bought Christmas ornaments there one time from the Chiapas artists selling in the tent (only in Mexico!).

I don't see that he is particularly relevant to creating a united front -- if anything he was encouraging people to avoid democratic political participation and the compromise that would have brought the left to power in the last Presidential election. His influence has been more on, and more beneficial, to PAN than to the left. Jerry Rubin, as you'll recall, ended up a sleaze-bag financial broker and Reaganista.

i don't know jerry rubin enough to agree on that count, but i do agree that marcos has done all he needs to for me. i have taken a lot from the books i have read and what i felt i have understood regarding el sexto sol, and perhaps the purest (of course as i see it) parts of what good thought he ran with. i have taken it in my direction, or interpreted as i see it, and it has moved me in directions i feel good about. so i agree he is hardly personally relevant to change among all the people, but his ideas or the ideas he conveyed were quite important in parts. i know that bit of wisdom you're kickin' about him benefitting PAN, but perhaps there was other things one could draw from the EZLN and marcos. there are always many things to see from a thing.

i agree with your other thoughts/implications of his pop icon functioning, etc

Yeah, I guess I am kind of a crank about this (and am the first to admit it). I donno... I get a little annoyed that so many people (excluding you and yours, of course) think Marcos IS the ELZN or oversimplify the complex issues into so condescending "those poor Indians" type of thing.

I'll be looking forward to Marxist-Leninist porn... it'll give a whole new meaning to "workers of the world, unite!"

This is wild - I didn't realize he had written a detective novel, either, shame on me I am not keeping up!

I am not sure what to think about the benefiting PAN: did he really convince people not to vote, I thought he was just refusing to endorse a candidate (and thus joining the system) and pointing to the way/degree to which elections are status quo. [I'm biased though, I was of course a Nader voter, which makes some people think I'm responsible for Bush (not in Louisiana though - Bush won by landslides here, no amount of Nader people voting Democratic would have tipped the scale).]