Over 70% of the population has said the same thing for a long time now and the Bush and Cheney answer was to send more troops. A New York Times editorial for the Neocons is like a red scarf at Pamplona. I can't believe that we ever went there to Iraq instead of concentrating on Afghanistan, but since we did, and since we did build permanent bases there, and since our only real interest there could only be oil, lets say what the NY Times didn't say:
Bush failed completely and miserably to capture oil for the Cheney interests and the U.S. public, he enraged a very large part of international opinion that will not go along with any U.S originated proposals of any kind of policy anywhere in the world for at least another generation, he created a massive human tragedy in an already suffering country and there is no way out now that will not lead to even greater and perhaps insurmountable difficulties in the Middle East, yet the famous NY Times employed Judith Miller as a cheerleader for this war and they have the brass balls to not own up to their own complicity now.
The end of the Vietnam War was only slightly problematic for the U.S. but awful for Cambodia and Laos and even in the short term, Vietnam, but compared to that pullout, the repercussions that we are going to face now in Iraq, both militarily and politically {nevermind on the terrorism front} are going to be felt for a hundred years until oil disappears there and no one cares anymore.
Most depressing of all in this upcoming collapse of the War Presidency {how sick is that?}is those who led us there, our press and politicians, Republican and Democratic, almost certainly will pay no price for failure of leadership, lack of wisdom and shear perfidy.
Make no mistake about it. I am happy that Saddam is dead. But next time, Mr. Cheney, please send Special Forces there secretly, violate the international accords in that way {remember Allende?}and keep the damage controllable and leave the population in Iraq, or wherever, relatively unscathed by your need for resources to exploit. I cannot understand in any way how the U.S. public does not demand much greater accounting of Bush and Cheney, the national press and other leadership sectors that led to this nightmare through abnegation of their duties.
Indeed, the U.S. citizenry scares me much more than Bush and Cheney do. Bush and Cheney will be finally gone in 17 months. U.S.Citizens: What part of insanity do you not understand?

Nez, I'm truly glad to know the Times has done this, especially since they were so critical to the process of sending us into Iraq in the first place. I swear, I'm really not at all sure Bush could have pulled it off without their help. And I remain a little bitter about that. But I would guess this editorial means we're at least on our way out of there and that's great. Now, if we could just get them to call for the speedy impeachment of Cheney and Bush, we could start to clean up the wreakage. :^D

Nez:

"Poppy" Bush's "housewarming gift" for Bill Clinton was the ill-advised small-scale invasion of another sovereign country (wrap it any way you want, that was an invasion) pales in comparison with that which will be left to whovever replaces the feckless fuck from Crawford. Part of me says the dems would be smart to do what they can to get Fred and his prom queen wife on the Reptilican ticket and then spend the bulk of the campaign money (and star power) on congressional races. If you have a two-thirds majority in the house or senate it makes no difference who is sitting behind the desk in Bush's current playroom.

I haven't caught more than a couple of minutes of "L'il Bush" on the Comedy Network, but the little bit I saw was interesting. I think that the show would have been impossible to get on any network or cable outlet, even a year ago. I also think that by portraying Gdubyabush and his "advisors" as kids the creators quite accurately focus on the lack of maturity and all of those characteristics of greed, rage, cowardice, ignorance and pigheadedness that typify the schoolyard bully. I just wish that someone else would get into the game so that the Comedy Channel and Keith Olbermann weren't the only sources for the truth about Bushco.

Nez:

Sorry, I forgot to also say:

I hope that one episode features Karl Rove getting punched in the nose by the red-haired junior liberal lady in the schoolyard!

This sounds like Mogadishu all over again...