"Sure, you can say I'm biased on this, but I've been thinking about it and wondering why it's SO hard to convince people that the WHITE criminals at the obvious top of the festering heap—the movers themselves—ought to be impeached when every single thing points to doing so and has for years, and yet within a few months, people seem to feel there is no question that this tool of these crooks should be impeached."

I 100% agree with you!

Alberto Gonzales is ONLY doing what Baby Doc Bush is **telling** him to do! Bush CHOSE him because Gonzales would do **exactly** what Bush wants--which is to see the legalization of torture and to turn the United States into a dictatorship. If Gonzales were to have refused Bush his wishes, Bush would have fired him or had him "resign" and pick another pro-torture stoolie. Realistically, Gonzales is just the tool. Impeaching Gonzales is only a feel-good, racist act unless they were to try Baby Doc and his ENTIRE upper echelon, including Darth Cheney. Bush very well might have chosen Gonzales on the idea that, hey, if the pro-torture manuever went sour, he could just kick the brown stoolie to the wolves in order to pacify them and keep his lily-white high command free to run amok. Hell, it makes me wonder why he hasn't kicked Condoleeza Rice to the wolves, too, but she might have some REAL atomic bomb dirt on him that would make the "silent" scoop of Libby look like a firecracker..

People forget that when Bush was Governor of Texas, he had well over a HUNDRED people executed on Death Row in that state, and I'll never forgot the look of sadistic glee and joy Bush had on his face when he was discussing ON TELEVISION the immanent execution of two of the prisoners. This was prior to the 2000 election. I SHUDDERED inwardly, because I knew I was looking at a sadistic madman, and hoped that most of the public would **see** through his "wholesome" veneer. Unfortunately, it was not to be...the margin was *slim* enough that they could probably "fudge" the numbers using electronic voting fraud...

In short, Bush is a war criminal and a traitor. And it sure as hell ISN'T just what's going on.

You are absolutely right! I think it is disgusting that as a child of immgrant parents and being able to have one the most important jobs in this country that he would sell out to Georgie!! This is the example of that happens when you sell yourself to the man instead of keeping your integrity.
I do agree that they want to make him an example and hang him out to dry.
The problem is all the gabachos sitting on that bench also have giant skeltons in their closet.
I wonder if it would be a different outcome if the attorney general was of a different persuasion..............

You know, something has been bothering me about this whole ordeal for a while and I couldn't put my finger on it; but this managed to unlock a piece of it for me. He is one of the OGs in Shrub's mafia, shielding him from all sorts of accountability - he should be taken down but not without the master.

Agreed.

Well Nez we are all responsible for our actions. If it merely stops with Gonzo, then yes, you would be right. He would have sacrifice himself in the public eye and his godfathers would have walked free. On the other hand he is one of many and ALL of the should face the music.

It may simply be one step at a time. Just like the citations for contempt before invoking inherent contempt. Getting enough votes for removing Cheney/Bush right now will be nigh impossible (seriously, would Sen. Hillary want Rep. Pelosi to be the first woman president?). Impeaching right now will make really impeaching later nigh impossible.

But if a few more advisors take the stand and lie like that... Note also that Gonzales is the only one actually to testify before Congress and flat-out lie. The caucasian/white/whateveryouwanttocallus folks (e.g. Miers, Rove) have refused. Hence, Gonzales is the easy target. I suspect that is more of a reason why he's the target right now than his heritage.

The real "right now" solution (imho) is for Congress to grow a pair and repeal the crappy laws, then pass laws to ensure this doesn't happen again. But I'm not holding my breath.

dunno bout hillary, but i'd rather see Pelosi as Pres than Clinton.

and on "the caucasian/white/whateveryouwanttocallus folks," i don't mind at all letting you folks self-identify. so it's your call.

Congress "growing a pair" won't happen unless it pays dividends in power. that's the problem with today's political landscape. truth and honor and integrity eclipsed by calculation.

i stand behind my post's observation and theory, you are free to retain yours of course.

Right on, Nez. I find the guy vile but it's interesting (read: sickening) that somehow GWB and Cheney are untouchable, yet The Brown Dude Iz Horribull.

Mr. AG has been a Bush enabler for well over a decade so his continuing yesmanism shouldn't surprise anyone. What his melaninity has to do with being a total jerk I am not aware of, but if we are fair and unprejudiced we should readily see that one's heritage is neither a free pass to get away with murder {I feel this is literal in his case}nor a good reason to be the scapegoat for a pathetic regime.
He should resign and until he does, he deserves scorn and he should be tried on a number of charges.
And then there is the Libby case. They tossed that guy under the bus I guess knowing all the time they would pardon him. He deserves further punishment too.

no, his ethnic makeup has nothing to do with his crimes, of course. i refer to the outlook of those who would make excuses for not impeaching cheneybush, but who (relatively) swiftly call for the ouster and impeachment of gonzo. but i guess im being redundant now.

The more redundancy about the impeachments, the better. You know where I stand on that. I am hoping that in addition to the basic shame of the impeachment we can get around to some really medieval "treatments" for these guys and dolls at the top of the political pyramid, and my personal choice would be flaying by a sushi master, with liberal application of wasabi following the dermal removal. Burning at the stake would eventually follow.
There is a hallowed and long religious, even Christian in fact, tradition of these methods, so I know the noncombatant officials would be honored to be handled thusly.

I believe the (hopelessly chickenshit) plan is to work up to Bush and Cheney by attacking their less popular and less defended flunkies. At this rate the Democrats will be making major headway on clearing up corruption in the National Park Service by about 2015. When all obstacles are removed (sometime in the 25th century) they will reveal their secret master plan and begin the attack on Bush and Cheney. Until then, it's not about race or ethnicity, nossir, it's about principles and umm freedom or something.

Now personally my very simple plan is this: Immediate withdrawal of all troops, including mercenaries, from Iraq and Afghanistan- Impeachment proceedings to begin immediately against Bush and Cheney- Give them parachutes and drop their asses over the radioactive nightmare of Baghdad. That doesn't seem the least bit extreme, radical or irresponsible to me.

Meanwhile back in Pelosiland...

clearly, the Dem's "secret master plan" is to carefully juggle the public's sense of outrage and hope and not upset the balance just enough to get elected. after that, who knows. if they even get to that and cheneybush doesn't attack us in the name of liberty and martial law/suspended elections. (i very well remember the last time they floated that very idea of suspending the elections, and i'm sure cheneybush would have if the DIEBOLD fix and voter roll purges hadn't made suspending the elections a moot point.)

but just so it's clear to any others who comment, i'm not talking about what is most practical to do, or what we imagine others imagine is the most practical thing to do, or what is necessary or required by law or what the Dems have the guts to do...i am very specifically talking about the attitudes on the parts of the spectators, regarding the selective urgency ala cheneybush vs gonzo's impeachments.

OK, to address your original point: I don't have much of a sense of what "real" (Southern and Midwestern) Americans are thinking lately. I live in the very liberal SF Bay Area. I know lots of native born white people who aren't at all threatened by immigrants and I don't mean hippies. Around here Gonzalez' last name is not an issue. What I'm seeing is a lot of dispirited people who've made it clear over and over that they oppose Bush, his war and all of his other policies. They're (We're) disappointed to see a half hearted attack on one of his punks when he should have gotten the parachute treatment years ago. Of course, as redneck relatives and midwestern tourists like to remind us, we're not "real Americans."

well..i know i certainly dont define "real americans" as southern and midwestern! but anyway, yes, i'm sure attitudes differ from place to place. i am talking about the attitudes i glean from reading many news sources and blogs online.