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24 de Agosto, 2007

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Are you tired of waiting to pay for your groceries while Illegal Aliens pay with food stamps and then go outside and get in a $40,000 car?

Are you tired of paying taxes when Illegal Aliens pay NONE!

Are you tired of reading that another Illegal Alien was arrested for drug dealing?

Are you tired of having to punch 1 for English?

Are you tired of seeing multiple families in our homes?

"This tract, which was sent out by a key supporter of [Judy Sigwalt and her fellow Carpentersville village trustee Paul Humpfer], and with the knowledge of Humpfer, became a marker of sorts, a moment when the wedge was driven so deep (one resident told me, 'It's kind of like the Grand Canyon') that there would be no easy reconciliation. Most Hispanics didn't learn of the flier until after the election, but it so offended many of them -- especially those who were American citizens and had a foothold in the middle class -- that even those who'd never been politically active began heading out to the village meetings to gauge firsthand the mood of their neighbors. What so alarmed them is that it felt less like a debate on illegal immigration than it did a condemnation of Hispanic culture."

img LET'S BE CLEAR. Immigration is a complicated issue in our country and our modern day paradigms. But much of the animosity out there is really not so complicated. It's about fear of the Other. It's about racism, too, whatever that word means. It's about a small mind with a small imagination, it's about a static clinging to a bland hallucination, it's a false image of what "America" means, first forgetting what the word "America" actually means (not "50 states," hint, it's bigger and has loooooots of brown people living in it), and then hoping to hang onto some ridiculous isolated suburban dream that doesn't even exist in reality. It's about replacing history with a false reality. It's about a strange, purposely-crafted mentality that has too long been sheltered in a fantasy world, one that ignores the truth of humans and time and space and progression and motion and give and take--and believes instead in walls, borders, fences, drones, Official Languages, aliens, there vs. here, us or them, and all the other pap that its daddy-gobierno-medios has stuffed into its pilllowy brain folds to help feed and maintain a certain superiority and control over the Other, who is always, of course, Teeming at the Gate and snatching at ya plate.

img It's in places like Carpentersville where we may be witnessing the opening of a deep and profound fissure in the American landscape. Over the past two years, more than 40 local and state governments have passed ordinances and legislation aimed at making life miserable for illegal immigrants in the hope that they'll have no choice but to return to their countries of origin. Deportation by attrition, some call it. One of the first ordinances was passed in Hazleton, Pa., and was meant to bar illegal immigrants from living and working there. It served as a model for many local officials across the country, including Sigwalt and Humpfer.

On July 26, a federal judge struck down Hazleton's ordinance, but the town's mayor, Lou Barletta, plans to appeal the decision. "This battle is far from over," he declared the day of the ruling. States and towns have looked for other ways to crack down on illegal immigrants. Last month, Prince William County in northern Virginia passed a resolution trying to curb illegal immigrants' access to public services. Waukegan, another Illinois town, has voted to apply for a federal program that would allow its police to begin deportation charges against those who are here illegally. A week after the Senate failed to pass comprehensive immigration reform, Arizona's governor, Janet Napolitano, signed into law an act penalizing businesses that knowingly hire undocumented immigrants.

'One of the practical effects of this failure' to enact national immigration reform, Napolitano wrote to the Congressional leadership, 'is that Arizona, and states across the nation, must now continue to address this escalating problem on their own.' Admittedly, the constitutionality of many of these new laws is still in question, and some of the state bills and local ordinances simply duplicate what's already in force nationally. But with Congress's inability to reach an agreement on an immigration bill, the debate will continue among local officials like those in Carpentersville, where the wrangling often seems less about illegal immigration than it does about whether new immigrants are assimilating quickly enough, if at all.

--Our Town, icirr.org

You know how some people say "I don't hate Mexicans. I'm not Racist. I just believe in the Law." Well, right on. I understand and believe these people. Because you see, I don't hate these people either. I just really believe in the Word. In the Word given, the Word signed, the Word of Treaty, the Word spoken in the spirit of Truth. About the word given over 150 years ago that recognized a certain wrong was done to Mexico and her gente. And in the wake of that Wrong, agreed to certain concessions that would attempt to compensate.

The USA, you see, knew that in 1848, she had pulled some bullshit by invading Mexico and taking land and resources that it (Polk) wanted. Check it: this might be hard to believe, but sometimes countries that lust over the land or resources of other weaker nations actually lie up an excuse to invade and take it. I know. Mindblowing. (Understandable, though, because "we want your shit" is reallllly tough to fit into an anthem.) Barbaric, in fact. Thank God that we are a more advanced people than that these days.

Anyway, the victorious USA understood it had taken advantage of a few situations, even if unspoken. After all, once you've already justified enslavement (blacks), genocide (Indians), and further war and bloodshed based on a megalomaniacal and sociopathic philosophy as "Manifest Destiny," well, you've pretty much set the stage down the line for just about any other horrendous act of greed and violence and dehumanization. Because when you celebrate the spoils of those actions, you celebrate those actions. But if you've formed your culture in such a way that moral accountings or full contextualizations are never performed, you will never get a holistic and truthful view. Welcome to the sound of a broken band pumping out cancerous canciones in a Haunted Land.

Yet, the USA understood on some level that what it had done to Mexico was wrong. And so in the Treaty that was drawn up, not only did she pay 15 mil for the land she took (why do you pay millions for land you've rightfully conquered?), but the US Government assured the Mexican Government that in all the cities that would NOW be considered part of the New Land, part of "America," the Spanish language was to be allowed and given space right there next to all English. Documents to be printed in both languages, signs to be posted.

But again....the USA talks big game, and forgets the bloody ground since washed clean by the rain. And now people whose understanding of the world was born in plastic mall bins stamped with corporate logos are talking all kinds of bullshit about Official Languages and Shrinking Culture and how white Americans are feeling "alienated."

ENGLISH SPEAKERS INVADED A LAND OF OTHER PEOPLES AND CULTURES AND STOLE IT.

NOW DEAL with this fact and stop whining. Poor you, pushing 1 all day on your phone. Poor you, when English doesn't carry you all over the blessed globe and through every square inch of space.

You don't have to feel personally responsible for this recent invasion, dehumanization, and theft. But as a sentient being, you must acknowledge that the history does NOT go away because you've decided History begins at a certain point as according to your preference. Consequences play out even once you turn your head. Just because you cover your eyes doesn't mean I can't still see you standing there with your hand over your face. Reality is reality. Welcome. To the desert of the Real.

And another truth to consider--feel free to extrapolate this a tiny bit to unknown others--is that until I began feeling bombarded by this ignorance and continued willful hate against YES MI GENTE I didn't much spit fire on the issue. I was lulled, too. The great redwhiteandblue Forgetting Machine was rocking me with a sweet rhythm. But you went and woke me up. With all this talk, this thinly disguised talk, do you really think you fool me? Or anyone? Now, from so many quarters this ignorance and behind it hate and violence. Talkers and haters like this today are but an arm of a beast that has already claimed enough blood and land and coin. So yes, I do speak up for my people and for history and nobody will make me feel that this is a crime or that I ought to be ashamed, or polite, or step aside and let white or polite bloggers and activists Know Better how to Speak to the Immigration Issue fuck that. Yes, I'm pissed off and I won't hide it.

I've heard the criticism about my tone. Get over it. There are so many wrongs in this world. So many hypocrisies and so much confusion that it kills people, it makes us mad, it gives us diseases in our minds and souls and bodies. Would you have me bury truth, then? Would you have me on Zoloft, then? On Ambien? On something to still the trembling fingers of indignation? Something to civilize me? Who will be outraged and spilling over with fury and righteous rejection of all this ignorance, violence, and vile inhumanity? Would you have me hook up my TV again and zone into it, live on platitudes and equivocation? Would you have me pretend all this negativity and hate and violence and threat leveled on immigrants and Mexican@s and Latinos tod@s is about "law"?

Roeser formed the Wise Owls Club, recognition for those at Otto for 15 years or more. He gave away Wise Owls shirts and sponsored an annual luncheon. It was a small gesture, but Roeser realized he had to retain his older employees, most of whom were white and all of whom would soon be in the minority, while also trying to assimilate his newer Hispanic workers or, as he puts it, "Ottoize" them. This is essential to Roeser, and he maintains it is at the heart of the contentiousness in Carpentersville: that longtime residents don't trust that their new neighbors are becoming Americanized fast enough. [...]

Law?

Moreover, Humpfer and Sigwalt said that constituents had expressed dismay at the number of businesses in which the proprietors spoke only Spanish. 'I've gone into the Polish deli and the German deli, and they're so friendly,' Sigwalt said. 'When I go into the Hispanic grocery store, I feel like an intruder; I feel unwelcome.' Humpfer added, 'It's gotten to a level where the number of illegals is so big, these stores can cater to only one culture.'

Law?

Around this time, Humpfer also learned that the village was having little success in collecting $372,000 in ambulance fees. The collection agencies hired by the village were unable to locate many of the individuals with outstanding bills. A number of them had Spanish surnames, Humpfer said, and he concluded that many gave false addresses because they were without documents and so feared deportation.

--Our Town, icirr.org

Good assumption, by the way.

All about "law." And "illegality." Certainly not about a freakout over a shift in POWER. None of it about the dominant culture members being out of POWER for once. Not about an image, a mental structure and imagination of heirarchy so damn engraved into minds that the very hint of any other shape is terrifying, that having to push 1 means you are on your knees, where not being the majority language in any situation means you are the Bad Intruder (because that's how you see others who don't wield the dominant language, por supuesto!), where when you feel these feelings, you reach for a weapon, and that weapon is Law.

But Law is not what this is about. Not anymore than a murder with a gun is about moving metal objects from one place to another.

It would be easy to live in Carpentersville and have nothing to do with people on the other side of the river, and as the number of Hispanics increased, most in town barely paid attention. People tell me that everyone got along reasonably well. Indeed, in 1999, the village leaders established the Hispanic Committee in the hope that they could help acculturate and celebrate the new arrivals. It encouraged Hispanics to participate in the 2000 census and registered newcomers to vote. Judy Sigwalt was a part of this committee.

Sigwalt describes herself as 'just a Joe Blow who at 54 works 10 hours a day at a service job.' Her husband is a diesel mechanic for Wonder Bread. Sigwalt was first elected a village trustee in 1999, and shortly afterward agreed to join the Hispanic Committee. For three summers, the committee was the host of Celebration Latina, a one-day festival of Mexican food and music. But Sigwalt said she believed that non-Hispanic residents in town did not want to attend such an ethnically specific festival, and so she urged a name change, to Community Pride Day. That year attendance dropped off from 2,500 to 500 people. Shortly afterward, the Hispanic Committee disbanded, but it all happened quietly, without much notice. [...]

--Our Town, icirr.org

It's almost too funny. Wonder bread, eh? Good decision, by the way. Who wants to celebrate being Latin@, after all? Oh, what? 4/5 of the fair's regular attendees? Hmmm.

One trustee, Kay Teeter, a soft-spoken Mary Kay cosmetics saleswoman, appeared agitated by the suggestions by Ruiz and others that supporting the proposed ordinance was the equivalent of dismissing Hispanics. 'I am not a racist,' she said. 'We're a blue-collar people. My grandparents worked hard to assimilate and become Americans. What we're trying to do here is unite the community with a common language.' Things quickly spiraled out of control. Two Hispanic women who had come with a contingent from Chicago rose from their seats and began chanting: 'Viva la Raza. Viva la Raza.' 'Speak English,' someone hollered. Two older men in the back row waved American flags. The women were ejected.

--Our Town, icirr.org

I don't even know what a reaction of waving Old Glory means in this context. "Remain patriotic, intractable, and monolingual. In the U.S.A."

And this declaration of "Speak English." You don't need to take any classes in college to get that English is built of just about every language you can imagine. That is...sort of the very method of the language. At least here in EEUU. But I guess this paragraph is already over the heads of those who would say "speak english" to someone speaking another language. It reminds me of another great quote from this article, where a town resident, sitting in on the town meeting says "This is America, not a foreign country."

I mean, that says it all, qué no? Observe the lens celebrating its fixed mount.

A week earlier, the town's department heads submitted an eight-page memo detailing how an English-only ordinance would hinder their jobs. 'If officers are not allowed to speak in a foreign language,' the police chief, David Neumann, wrote, 'it will have a chilling effect on the Police Department's relationship with those who do not speak English, whether they reside here legally or not.' So, Humpfer and Sigwalt chose, instead, to propose a resolution which would be more a declaration of their beliefs than a set of regulations. (English-only ordinances or resolutions have passed or are pending passage in 35 municipalities and counties.)

Sigwalt seemed particularly taut, in large part because she was disappointed that they had to retreat from their original proposal. 'The reason we don't have a unified country is because the second and third generations are not learning English,' she lectured. 'What is tearing our community apart is that there are so many different languages I can't interact with my neighbors anymore.'"

--Our Town, icirr.org

Yes, that's what's tearing your community apart. Cops who want to speak to their communities, and ultimately, So Many Different Languages. All the Polish and Russian and German and French and Swedish and Finnish and Welsh....so hard to keep up with all of them. And it's not just Carpentersville. The massive influx of Language Choice is tearing this nation apart at its well-welded scars. You do know what this means.

We need a new war, of course.

We need a War on Language. It's the only thing that can bring this nation back together. More law, more guns, and more fences. More methods of containment and control. Any century now, the success of such philosophy and methodology will kick in. And lo, won't we be one happy and united bunch on that sunny, English-only morn.

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Comentarios (28)


janna dijo:

GRVTR

You're right, this is about fear of the Other more than anything. I can remember when a "Mexican" (brown skinned, Spanish speaking) family bought the house next door to my grandparents' in suburban Indianapolis twenty years ago. My grandmother ranted, there goes the neighborhood, next thing you know, there'll be cars up on blocks in the yard and chickens running all around. Years later, she ranted more about not being able to find plain-ol' Velveeta in the local grocery store. "But they've got Mexican Velveeta! Mexican Mexican Mexican!" I was stunned and ashamed that the granddaughter of Irish immigrants could be so hateful and ignorant. I feel more than a little ashamed even sharing this story. But it's a sadly perfect example of the kinds attitudes we're talking about.

And what the hell are they talking about in that flier?: "Are you tired of seeing multiple families in our homes?" In whose homes? In OUR homes?? Sure, if it's your house it's your business who lives there. If it's not your house, it's none of your business. I spend about half my time in a household that includes various brothers, cousins, and a novia y niña. There are visitors from nearby households, too, all the time. There is always someone handy to keep an eye on the little one, la novia and I get to engage in much needed girl talk, there's never a dull moment, everyone pitches in on the household expenses, we spend lots of time sitting around sharing food and talking. There is a sense of community about it. And I can assure you, that unlike poor, lonely Mrs. Sigwalt, who had "no one to have coffee with because so many of her neighbors didn’t speak English," la novia en nuestro apartamento does not lack companionship.

And that part about feeling "unwelcome" and "like an outsider" when visiting tiendas latinas. I also sometimes feel like an outsider when I visit my favorite Spanish-dominant neighborhood, but unwelcome? Never. Why can't she be hospitable? Smile, speak a little Spanish like "buenos dias" and "gracias." She might feel a little less unwelcome without that hostile attitude she's carrying around. I'm sure it's impossible to hide. But I guess that would be too much to ask, after all, why should she be nice? She's an Amer'can! Apparently, stepping outside one's comfort zone just a little bit is downright un-american.

I could go on and on. *sigh*. People!



Rafael dijo:

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Excellent post...the vultures are coming home to roost. The blood encrusted in the Eagles claws now is poisoning everything that it touches. Not the mighty Eagle fault, she is a beautiful and graceful raptor, but she was kidnapped and made into a symbol of war and destruction. That much lead and blood seeps into the system until it destroys it all. American triumphalism...bah...who needs it?


Rafael dijo:

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Well I felt like an outsider in a Mexican tienda, but thats because I am not Mexican. Once I realize that and that I was there to do business, the feeling passed away.


nezua limón xolagrafik-jonez Author Profile Page dijo:

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jeje...funny.

hell, man. it's not as if i feel a part-of in every spanish speaking or "brown" or Mexican@ setting either, i mean come on. what do you call a mentality that leads one to feel s/he ought to be an insider in every single situation? perhaps not "racist," perhaps just "dumbass." or maybe...."spoiled." something along those lines. "sheltered." "silly."


BEG dijo:

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I am willing to bet whatever you like that attendance dropped at "Community Pride Day" because that sure as hell sounds like it's a gay pride event now. It would be no wonder attendance would drop dramatically whether through homophobia or simple indifference about gay pride events...

And I'm also willing to bet that is exactly WHY they chose that new name...


Raine dijo:

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I'd say "spoiled" and "sheltered" and add "privileged." It just reminds me of a conversation a couple of friends told me about after the fact...they were on study abroad and most of the white kids were complaining about how everywhere they went everyone was always STARING at them. And one of my friends got so angry at them, because, as she explained later, that's how she feels every day in her own home town, the one place where we're all supposed to feel "a part-of."

So they're sheltered, but even when someone sheltered is exposed to what it's like, they might not get it. Because they have that privilege.


RC dijo:

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When I read that Times article weeks ago I was bothered by many things in it, but I do not have a blog, so I just shared the ideas with no one. I thank you Nez for putting these thoughts up here.
I notice that you concentrated on the politicians in that town, a kind of sorry pair. I got some conflicting feelings about the head of the local factory, but at least he was way ahead of the average citizen.
I couldn't live in that town, indeed I have a big problem living in most US cities, since I have a tendency to say what I think. I would be causing quite a problem at those town meetings. And then I would still have to live in the town.
I also note that despite the great need of the politicians to feel better about English uber alles, the smarter people in that town have put a stop to that "plan".
Unfortunately, some towns don't have enough smart people in power. And I don't just mean in the US. Power is wielded by brutes in many parts of the world.


nezua limón xolagrafik-jonez Author Profile Page dijo:

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grazzi baby, good points. (and you too, raine).

yes, people would do well to read the article. there is a flow to the story and some facts i did not include. not for any particular reason...i just had to stop somewhere with the quotes. and you are right of course. the US has no monopoly on idiocy or brutality.


nezua limón xolagrafik-jonez Author Profile Page dijo:

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oh and RC, out of all of them, i had a soft spot for Roeser, too. he seems humane, even if i dont agree with everything he thinks or is after.


RC dijo:

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Excuse me BEG, but that little burg in Nez' post just doesn't seem like an all that gay friendly kind of place. I think gay people would probably flee there the moment they came out to THEMSELVES!
I went to a Latin Music Festival on the Plaza in Asheville NC in September of 2005 while there for a week for my brother's wedding. Other than the Botanic Garden in that town {really great} it was the only event that held my interest.
And it was very popular with attendees of every kind of person.
Yes it does seem very odd that the "Community" in that other town decided to change the name. I just don't think it was about gayness though.
On the other hand, Asheville seemed to have a gay friendly thing happening and also a very very Latin Friendly Thing goin' on.
Maybe somebody in that town realized a long time ago that everybody was there for a damn good reason, like second homes or forestry jobs, and hey, why piss off people for no reason by treating them like dirt?


Theriomorph dijo:

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It's in places like Carpentersville where we may be witnessing the opening of a deep and profound fissure in the American landscape.

Again, still.

Over the past two years, more than 40 local and state governments have passed ordinances and legislation aimed at making life miserable for illegal immigrants in the hope that they'll have no choice but to return to their countries of origin. Deportation by attrition ... meant to bar illegal immigrants from living and working there.

Can you say Sun Down Towns?


Rafael dijo:

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Yeah I learned a lot about that in my Property Law classes, the Mount Laurel cases (I, II, III in New Jersey), restrictive covenants that bared non-white from owning property, zoning laws that shifted the cost of basic services to the cities and put the burden on poorer neighborhoods all in the name of lowering property taxes (while foisting the legend of the black mom on welfare riding a Cadillac).

Great link theriomorph, Orcinus delivers again.


RC dijo:

GRVTR

Thank You Theriomorph and Orcinus. The link to Orcinus should be followed only if you are prepared to learn or be reminded of just how low the US citizenry can go when it comes to small mindedness and government sanctioned ethnic cleansing.
A very depressing alarm bell is waiting at that link.
And we are right back there repeating that history yet again right now.
Extremely sad and and shameful.


Theriomorph dijo:

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Yeah, the whole series "Eliminationism in America" should be required reading in every school, for every person. Grateful to both David & Sara for the work they do.


Trin dijo:

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PERO NO QUIERO PRESIONAR UN BOTON EN MI TELEFONO *gritando*

yeah. what you said. jeez.

"I MIGHT HAVE TO PRESS ONE! THE WORLD IS ENDING!!!!!!eleventysix!"


nezua limón xolagrafik-jonez Author Profile Page dijo:

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jeje..."gritando"

that's great.


nezua limón xolagrafik-jonez Author Profile Page dijo:

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oh i get you, youre still all in español...i thought you were doing like my "blogando" but with gritting your teeth!

you were saying "shouting."


Trin dijo:

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hehehehe. i'm on a roll now.

¡PISSINGYMOANINGANDO!



Trin dijo:

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jejeje. :)

thanks for the moment of silliness Nez. I needed it today.


nezua limón xolagrafik-jonez Author Profile Page dijo:

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gracias to you, amiga. becuz i sure did, too.


Trin dijo:

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de nada amigo *abrazos fuertes*


Tomas el Yanqui dijo:

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I agree completely with our host and Rafael when they say that an expectation of social comfort in every possible situation is a ridiculous thing. And I think that food is the key to overcoming that expectation.

I'm Polish-Russian-Hungarian-Ukrainian. But when the wife and I visit the place near our home that makes fresh Hungarian-style smoked meats and sausages, do I feel like I'm part of the in-crowd? Heck no; I speak about three words of Hungarian. But I'm not there to talk about the economy or politics; I'm there for some sausages and some nice garlicky salami and maybe some of those yummy Ukrainian varenyky. As Rafael says, once you realize that you're just there to do business, any unease should just fade away.

And when my Mexican wife and I visit our favorite Brazilian lunch counter, the same thing goes with her and not speaking Portuguese. But you don't have to know words like 'feijoada' or 'farofa' -- you just fill your plate at the buffet, eat until you're full and then pay the lady at the cash register. There's no need for unease or discomfort, because everyone's there for the food, the food is great, the price is right and the folks that run the place love to have repeat customers.

So what's up with the caucasian discomfort?

I don't know. I was raised in a medium-sized town in the US Southeast which was almost totally black and white. There were a couple of Asian kids in my high school, but no Hispanic kids and no Jewish kids, either. At age 18, I probably had the same sheltered expectation that's being discussed in this thread. But I had two related experiences that really opened my eyes to the essential humanity of all peoples, particularly those folks I had never known before.

The first was Army boot camp. Anyone who's been through military boot camp can attest to this -- you're going to meet people who are *way* different from you, and you're going to be in a position where you *have* to work with them. And so it was with me.

And the second was serving my military hitch in Hawaii. It was obvious from the moment I got off the plane that white folks were a minority there, so I resolved to be polite, try to learn from the locals and to jump into the local culture. I was fortunate in that I had a local friend; we had met during advanced training, and since he was in the Reserves, he went back home after we completed training.

Maybe a week or two after I arrived in Hawaii, my friend took me to lunch with a friend of his. My friend was of Japanese descent (and his mom was an immigrant), and his pal was a redheaded Irish-Korean guy. We went for lunch at a local food court, so we all made our separate lunch choices and then sat at a common table to eat.

As we started to eat, my friend pointed out that we had all chosen different cuisine, but that no one's choices matched the ethnicity of anyone at the table. I think one of us had chosen tacos, one of us had picked Sbarro pizza and I got a Hawaiian-style plate lunch (onolicious).

"Well," said my pal's hapa friend, "that's just how it is out here. Everyone eats everyone else's food, and everyone marries everyone else."

Perhaps that's the key? ;)


nezua limón xolagrafik-jonez Author Profile Page dijo:

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that's a great story, and a great thought. gracias, Tomas. que viva la raza cosmica!


RC dijo:

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Tomas, write a book about that food and marriage plan, more people need to hear that message. And buen provecho, of course.


tomas el yanqui dijo:

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I've thought about that day's lunch for years and wondered why people can't just accept the humanity of other people in the same way that we accept their food. Look at any busy road in the US, and what do you see? Restaurants serving adaptations of foreign cuisine to suit Anglo tastes; pizza, tacos, sausages in buns, Chinese-style buffets, sushi bars and soul-food kitchens. Everyone eats everyone's food now, but it seems that the everyone-marrying-everyone-else part hasn't hit critical mass yet.

And I've got to wonder about the "minutemen" (blargh) and the people who support them. Have those people *never* enjoyed a combination plate with rice and beans? A lot of them live in Texas and New Mexico -- there's no way they've never been *exposed* to the culture and cuisine and people that they rail against. So where do those attitudes come from?

My wife speculates that it was originally more a class thing than a race thing, but that over time, those groups have adopted a more racist stance out of convenience. I don't know what it is; I grew up around people like that, and I'm glad to be out of that place now.



tomas el yanqui dijo:

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Inorganic salsa. Good gracious me. =80

kick it, ése.

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