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5 de Abril, 2008
Hillary Clinton in Eugene, Oregon
Categorized under MTV Street Team 08 Exclusive , Medios , Política Estados Unidos , Race for '08 | Tags: Choose or Lose 08, Citizen Journalism, Clinton, Eugene, MTV, Oregon, Street Team 08
COVERED THE HILLARY CLINTON campaign stop in Eugene yesterday, at the South Eugene High School. While there was a smattering across a few demographics (there were young people, too), it seemed to my eye to be mostly white women, and older people. (You can't judge by who is behind HRC in the monitor; these people are picked purposely, and often for the very traits I discuss now: sex, age, skin color, and "ethnic" appearance.) However, I did no formal tally, and when the video is made, you can make a judgment for yourself on that aspect.
The truth is, Clinton did her best (even pushing through a tired and "froggy" sounding voice), and her supporters cheered their loudest, and I appreciate her (and their) spirit and ambition and Clinton's manner of laying out her platform. But it was inarguably not a good day for Clinton. She was late, she made everyone wait in the rain longer than we were supposed to, and then inside we waited longer than scheduled. She was heckled about her vote authorizing the Iraq invasion and No Child Left Behind, and about two out of five (I have to check my tape to be sure) questions came to her from Obama supporters. Not to mention the press pass was a cheap xerox instead of a printed and designed document (campaign budget), the gymnasium could have fit, along with nine others the same size (rough guess, probably on the low side, actually) in the venue Obama spoke in when he was here March 21 of this year. I can't help but compare, and I guess in a race like this, that's the point.
It felt a bit sad to me. I can't even count how many times speakers tried to get everyone to cheer louder or longer. At one point, this anchorwoman (in the foto to the right) was telling her cameraman about speaking purposely fast and breathless to give the feeling that the energy in the room was very high. I overheard it, and tried to catch some with the shotgun mic attached to my sound recorder, but pointing one of those at someone (especially a media person) has the result of them quieting down a lot. By the time I had it on and pointed, she was whispering. But truthfully, there was this sort of effort in a few places. Ted Kulongoski, Oregon's governor (who introduced Clinton) seemed absolutely possessed, bobbing and stooping and dancing around trying to rouse the crowd, trying to pass on his frenzy. It was almost as if the campaign/event was competing with the ghost of Obama's recent appearance, which had raised the rafters and blew out the town with buzz.
You will see very plainly from the videotape that many of the people behind Clinton (even though handpicked by the campaign) were definitely not excited, and in fact often looked very bored, didn't clap when they were supposed to, or made tired, perfunctory "golf claps" on the applause lines. I honestly felt embarrassed for the Senator more than once.
I now respect Clinton's 3D supporters much more than her online supporters. Probably because these ones often seemed happy, as well as happy to see me, instead of sneering at me or calling me names. (Then again, I don't wear any MTV gear online and at the HRC rally, I wasn't talking to people about Obama. So who knows!)
As I was walking along the line outside catching audio, one woman stopped me and asked if she could take a picture of me. I laughed and felt a bit strange, as I was not in my "all about me" mental state (I actually leave this behind when I cover events like this). She wanted the pic of the MTV-affiliated news-making cat for her son. "It will be the only part of this he enjoys" she said.
I have to add a correction. This fellow (Fernando Suarez from CBS) was sitting in front of my camera spot, and misquoted the Senator, who actually said (in defense of her campaign hurting the democratic party with attacks that praise McCain, etc) “I don’t take any of it personally and I don't take most if it seriously." (As you see, she turned the question around to include herself being attacked, and then said she doesn't take those attacks personally.) It is a small error (he wrote "don't take any of it" in both instances), and the rest of his article jibes, for the most part, with my recollection and camera tape. (Just a note to let you know that on this page, you can sometimes get news even more accurate than CBS. :) Suarez calls her "fiery," and gives the impression that Clinton battered that questioner with righteous truth. This is one of those parts you have to understand is the subjective declaration of the reporter. Just as is the case with some of my post, as well. Such as where I might call her "misleading, though brightly" rather than "fiery." You could see it either way. You can actually see it both ways. I think that would still be accurate.
Ultimately, while I gained some respect for Clinton and her supporters that I did not previously have, what I have confirmed for myself that remains true of Clinton is this type of behavior that anything goes, that she can do or say anything to opponents, that she can tell whatever stories she wants because it is all excused by the chase for power, that its part of the game, and that if you can't take that, you oughtta not be in politics. That is, she defends old schools biznass as-is. In fact, she excuses too much with the same line (almost verbatim) we've been hearing from the current resident of the White House who also subscribes to "Ends justify the means" philosophy. Clinton tells us to "leave it to the history books" to decide right and wrong. But we don't live in history books. We live here, now. I have to say when I hear Bush and Clinton say "leave it to the history books" it sounds to me a lot like "I can do what I want and maybe one day it will seem honorable, because now it sure doesn't." And I'm hard-pressed to think of how this thought ever came to be an acceptable defense for anything.
A sign in the auditorium spelled out "Oregon is Clinton Country" and Hillary looked at it and said "I hope that's true." Maybe so, maybe not. Judging by what I've personally witnessed at Senators Obama's and Clinton's stops in Eugene, I'd say probably not.
But we'll know for sure in May.

As most of you know, the finished video will show up on this page, when it is done. I'm pretty sure that Part 2 of Obama in Eugene will be up first, though, on Monday evening. Check Wednesday, April 13 for the HRC video. All fotos on this page taken with my iPhone, as I did remember to charge my digital camera battery, but forgot to take it out of the charger when I left!
UPDATE [10:07 am PST]: This article has been updated to correct Senator Clinton's words from "I don’t take any of it personally; I take very little of it seriously." to "I don’t take any of it personally and I don't take most of it seriously."
UPDATE, 4:05 am, Apr 8:In light of conflicting reports about Clinton's Insurance Story, reference to that story, and to Clinton's "not telling the truth" about it has been removed from this article. Original (struck) text can be found here.




Comentarios (7)
Leah dijo:
Hi Nezua,
Long time no hear from, at least at Corrente.
Thanks for this description. I appreciate your fairness. I don't agree about the notion of Clinton will do anything; there are questions about whether or not the story about just how true, or what parts may be not true about the pregnant woman, except that we do know that both she and the child died, I believe. So, it's not something made up out of whole cloth, and there are questions about the hospital denials. And I voted for Obama, so my wish to keep from repeating right wing tropes about the Clintons isn't based on wanting to support her candidacy.
Please don't feel unwelcome at Corrente; we're all the same people, despite some of the anger being expressed at some Obama supporters, and questions raised by Obama.
Palabras por Leah spat forth on el 6 de Abril, 2008 at 12:48 PM
nezua
dijo:
Thank you Leah. Yeah, I hope that last graf or so felt like editorializing, because that's what it was. My opinion. I dont mind that we disagree. I just want it to be with respect.
All the "OFB" stuff makes me feel unwelcome at Corrente. I know I personally am welcome. Thank you very much for reminding me. I appreciate that. I think I may have to wait for a bit until coming back in full force there. Dunno. I don't react well to being lumped in and sneered at, and I got a bit loud with a few of your writers back when I said "later for now," and blowing up online is not something I feel good about doing. Since I can't make the most strident of corrente writers shut up or write the way I want them to, it seemed to make the most sense to remove myself. I don't like that every discussion about Hillary and Obama (especially when people dissent) becomes kind of a derision-laced bullyfest, and yes thats my editorializing again! That's what it feels like too often. I still read CD at my leisure because she does very little if any of that "OFB" sneering. But it's not personal, I like ustedes, and I do miss hangin around. But it's cool to take a break. We're all out here, it's not such a big place. We'll all be hanging out again and sunnin by the pool before you know it!
Good to see you. :) You, too, are welcome here. But it seems you know that. Good.
Palabras por nezua
spat forth on el 6 de Abril, 2008 at 12:55 PM
nezua
dijo:
ps Leah...is the nytimes.com a "right wing" newspaper printing "right wing tropes"? (link in post about hospital). i didnt know pointing out this kind of thing was "right wing" troping. i probably wouldn't have brought it up if i read it in, you know, New York Post or on FOX or something...
Palabras por nezua
spat forth on el 6 de Abril, 2008 at 05:57 PM
nezua
dijo:
a note: sen. clinton's campaign admits they didnt have time to have the story vetted, even, so. it doesn't look like they are standing behind the story too strongly.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/in-oregon-clint.html
Palabras por nezua
spat forth on el 6 de Abril, 2008 at 08:02 PM
bob the hog dijo:
Pardon the source, but...
The grandmother of Trina Bachtel confirms the hospital's version of events. Ms. Bachtel was insured. She was not denied health care for lack of a hundred bucks. Hillary's story is not true.
That she keeps telling it is incredible. It is newsworthy. Too bad you can't upload the incriminating clip to youtube (MTV's site doesn't work for me).
Palabras por bob the hog spat forth on el 7 de Abril, 2008 at 06:05 AM
nezua
dijo:
its funny. you are the third person i've heard from who said MTVs site doesnt work for you. thats not good.
i think it's in other places aside from the post, too. not to say the Post doesnt report news. i'm just sort of turned off by them from my years living in nyc. it was one of the rags i never picked up. no matter how cheap they made it. but who am i kidding. i personally suffered behind a reporter's sleazy ethics from the Village Voice, and the NYTimes screwed the american people by colluding with/folding under the criminal bush administration, so. can any of them be trusted? only so far.
Palabras por nezua
spat forth on el 7 de Abril, 2008 at 07:45 AM
RC dijo:
I liked this post, Nez, and always appreciate when you do a little editorializing about editorializing, certainly one of my all time favorite topics. I also note you now have people chasing you for your photo, your own paparazza. Soon, you will be at an MTV Party with the Triumvirate of Paris, Lindsey and Britney and by then you will BE the news.
But as long as you can offer these scribblings with the observations of the detached, yet opinionated, witness, well that's great.
I hope you are going to cover Denver.
Should we be saving up some donations?
Palabras por RC spat forth on el 7 de Abril, 2008 at 06:00 PM